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26 Jun 2024

Philipp Ahmann edited this page Jun 26, 2024 · 3 revisions

Roll call

* indicates TSC voting members

Host

  • *Philipp Ahmann

Attended this meeting

  • *Matt Kelly
  • *Matt Weber
  • *Kate Stewart
  • Naresh Ravuri
  • *Christopher Temple
  • Olivier Charrier
  • *Gabriele Paoloni

Regrets

Attended recently in the past

  • Steve VanderLeest
  • *Alessandro Carminati
  • *Sudip Mukherjee
  • Pete Brink
  • *Paul Albertella
  • Youssef Hajjioui
  • JE[A]Y
  • *Lukas Bulwahn
  • Vipul Gupta

Topics & Notes

Check past action items

System BOM being picked up in Systems WG

SDV-EG on Automotive Grade Open Source to start

Systems WG development process documentation

The core parts of the kernel [cont.]

  • qemu ARM "hardware"
  • Arch WG started
  • Main discussion started in LFSCS with tiny config, which is not sufficient.
  • Many dependencies are created by kernel version and architecture.
  • Start to analyse a simple program with small calculation to set some claims on what is used by a simple calculation.
  • What is the address space, what happens on context switch.
  • Expand scope step by step.
  • This fits to the idea of design elements as considered by OSEP (Paul, Olivier).
    • design elements are in definition level on what it is.
    • capture assumptions of use for integration elements
    • integration element cannot be traced to a function but are needed to support safe integration
    • LFSCS work can be used as an input for OSEP.
  • Consider also OSEP PR material in LFSCS.
  • Follow up information based on last call: AGL provides a ARM based qemu release.
  • Topic will continue in next TSC meeting.

Linux Plumbers microconf

  • Link: Safe Systems with Linux
  • CFP is open now until 10-Jul-2024
  • Refereed Track Presentations Proposals can also be good to submit as opener for the Microconf
  • Registration is open now: https://lpc.events/event/18/page/226-attend
  • Where do we want to upstream the work we are doing? -> E.g. where do maintainers want requirements?
  • Minimal Kernel and Analysis can be another topic.
  • AI-Philipp: Drop a mail to Steven that we extend the deadline to July 10th.

Short status from WGs

  • Systems
    • SBOM (see above)
    • Dev process (see above)
  • Automotive
    • Aligned with AGL to discuss about future use cases at AGL AMM
    • Base traction with new members from Canonical and Elektrobit. Looking for an OEM to support.
  • Tools
  • Arch
    • Evaluate short term and long term goals based on Lund workshop
    • For core parts of kernel wait for more mature state from OSEP and LFSCS
    • Improving kernel documentation and involving experts. -> Work on an RFC
      • Can there be a template for the kernel documentation? There is no template for kernel internals.
      • Would be a topic for the microconf. (Will not be mature for the refereed track)
  • Medical
    • Work on requirements and new PR under review
  • OSEP
    • Definition about integration elements and functional elements start.
    • Base on design elements started.

AoB

  • Skip TSC Meeting July 24th?

Announcements

First half year topics for webinar series

  • Past webinars on website: https://elisa.tech/seminar-series/
  • stress-ng update -> Scheduled for June 26 (today)
  • Later during the year:
    • Have something about SOTIF, depending on discussions during June workshop.
    • RT webinar once PREEMPT_RT is fully mainline.
    • ELISA user story by a company.
    • Håkan Sivencrona about SEooC
    • Julia Lawall about formal verification (derived from Lund Linux Con presentation

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