Upcoming WHATNOT meeting on 2024-10-31

[past]

What is the issue with the HTML Standard?

Today we held our weekly triage call (#10709) and I will post the meeting notes there in a bit. The next one is scheduled for October 31, 1am PDT. Note that this is 1 week later in an APAC+Europe friendly time.

People interested in attending the next call please respond here or reach out privately to @past, @cwilso or the spec editors. We will be tagging issues for the next call again using the agenda+ label in all WHATWG repos and we would like to invite anyone that can contribute to said issues to join us.

[past]

Thank you all for attending the meeting today and a special thank you to Domenic for taking meeting notes! Here are the notes from this meeting (the next one is at #10734):

Agenda

Attendees: Domenic, Mike, Mu-An, Olli, Yoav
Scribe: Domenic

1. Review past action items
   1. Anne will check with Ryosuke on his concern in Atomic move operation for element reparenting & reordering.
      1. Keep carrying this over.
      2. There was some discussion on the WHATWG Matrix about focus behavior, at least.
   2. Di will add an example with a shadowdom and update the spec for tabindex vs reading-flow property.
      1. Di added the example.
   3. Olli will discuss Add expect-no-linked-resources Document-Policy to Speculative parsing with Henri. Mason will ask Alex to come to a future meeting to give us more context.
      1. Alex will join us at the November 7 meeting to discuss this.
      2. [smaug] Asked, and hsivonen agreed that it would be rather useless in Gecko
      3. Some discussion in the minutes.
2. Carryovers from last time
   1. Khushal will incorporate the feedback to the Canvas Place Element explainer.
      1. [smaug] looks like it hasn't been updated
      2. Let's keep carrying this over!
   2. Joey to ping Chromium folks for [images] Lazy loading and out of band loads
      1. Let's keep carrying this over until something gets resolved
      2. [smaug] This is a web-compat issue so it'd be nice to give it higher priority
      3. Domenic will ping Dom Farolino in case he has context
3. New topics
   1. [Yoav] Multiple import maps
      1. [smaug] pinged the right folks at Mozilla
         1. No updates yet

Action Items

1. @domenic will ping Dom Farolino in case he has context around [images] Lazy loading and out of band loads.

Minutes

(Didn't keep detailed minutes of most topics, instead preferring to note updates in-line above.)

Discussion of expect-no-linked-resources

Domenic: any thoughts on whether people oppose adding these sorts of Document-Policy "doesn't hurt if not implemented" features?

Olli: it makes the platform more complicated.

(some discussion about how there's no benefit in Gecko. Probably some benefit in WebKit.)

Domenic: very reasonable for Gecko not to support this, but I hope they wouldn't strongly object.

Olli: looking forward to hearing more from Alex.