Telugu unicode ambiguities #32
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1. Please also test with tessdata_fast.
2. Check tel.lstm-unicharset in both tessdata_best and tessdata_fast to
ensure that rarely used letters are included.
3. Take a look at the training source files in langdata_lstm repo under tel.
4. Verify that the indic/telugu validation rules are correct.
…On Thu 13 Sep, 2018, 8:53 AM Manas Marthi, ***@***.***> wrote:
Hi,
I created a test text data mostly (made up individual characters. see
attachment) and converted it to tiff file using 'jTessBoxEditorFX'. I then
ran it using the the testdata_best telugu language trained data.
I noticed a few errors in recognizing them. I believe this are due to
ambiguous glyphs'.
*Ambiguity 1*: Telugu has three vowels that are similar to another
consonant (There is another consonant that looks close enough)
vowel 1) ఒ (pronounced as 'o' in 'so')
vowel 2) ఓ (pronounced as 'oa' in 'goal' )
vowel 3) ఔ (pronounced as 'ou' in 'ounce' or 'pound')
similar looking consonant 1) బ (pronounced as 'bu' in 'bus')
consonant 2) భ (this is same as above but uttered with stress and
aspiration. Imagine saying 'bus' as 'bhus')
*Ambiguity 2*: Consonant చ (pronounced as 'ch' as in 'church') is similar
to another rarely used consonant ౘ (closest transliteration 'tsa')
*Ambiguity 3*: Consonant ర (pronounced as 'ru' as in 'run') is similar to
another consonant ఠ ( hard 't' - close to the 't' in 'stone')
*Ambiguity 4*: Consonant జ (pronounced as 'ju' as in 'justice') is
similar to another rarely used consonant ౙ (closest trasilteration 'za')
and also similar to ఙ ('jna')
*Ambiguity 5*: consonant ఝ (pronounced as 'jha' - hard జ with aspiration
) was interpreted as 'రు' (pronounced as 'ru' in 'rupee' ) which is a
combination of Consonant ర ('ru') + vowel ఉ(pronounced as 'u' in 'push')
*Ambiguity 6*: vowel ఇ ( pronounced as 'i' in 'ink') is close to
consonant ఞ (pronounced as 'inya'). The 'inya' did not get recognized at
all in my test data.
*Ambiguity 7*: కౄ ( 'cru' as in 'cruel') and గౄ ('grue' as in 'gruesome')
were converted to క్య ('kya') and 'గ్యూ' (gyoo).
*Ambiguity 8*: ౠ ('rroo') became బూ ('boo')
I guess some of them could be due to my poor tiff. But I think some of the
ambiguities are genuine and need to be handled.
Please help to address these ambiguity resolutions.
tesseract-telugu.txt
<https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tessdata_best/files/2377575/tesseract-telugu.txt>
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Please test with real text not just syllables.
On Thu 13 Sep, 2018, 12:22 PM Shree Devi Kumar, <[email protected]>
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… 1. Please also test with tessdata_fast.
2. Check tel.lstm-unicharset in both tessdata_best and tessdata_fast to
ensure that rarely used letters are included.
3. Take a look at the training source files in langdata_lstm repo under
tel.
4. Verify that the indic/telugu validation rules are correct.
On Thu 13 Sep, 2018, 8:53 AM Manas Marthi, ***@***.***>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I created a test text data mostly (made up individual characters. see
> attachment) and converted it to tiff file using 'jTessBoxEditorFX'. I then
> ran it using the the testdata_best telugu language trained data.
> I noticed a few errors in recognizing them. I believe this are due to
> ambiguous glyphs'.
>
> *Ambiguity 1*: Telugu has three vowels that are similar to another
> consonant (There is another consonant that looks close enough)
> vowel 1) ఒ (pronounced as 'o' in 'so')
> vowel 2) ఓ (pronounced as 'oa' in 'goal' )
> vowel 3) ఔ (pronounced as 'ou' in 'ounce' or 'pound')
>
> similar looking consonant 1) బ (pronounced as 'bu' in 'bus')
> consonant 2) భ (this is same as above but uttered with stress and
> aspiration. Imagine saying 'bus' as 'bhus')
>
> *Ambiguity 2*: Consonant చ (pronounced as 'ch' as in 'church') is
> similar to another rarely used consonant ౘ (closest transliteration 'tsa')
>
> *Ambiguity 3*: Consonant ర (pronounced as 'ru' as in 'run') is similar
> to another consonant ఠ ( hard 't' - close to the 't' in 'stone')
>
> *Ambiguity 4*: Consonant జ (pronounced as 'ju' as in 'justice') is
> similar to another rarely used consonant ౙ (closest trasilteration 'za')
> and also similar to ఙ ('jna')
>
> *Ambiguity 5*: consonant ఝ (pronounced as 'jha' - hard జ with aspiration
> ) was interpreted as 'రు' (pronounced as 'ru' in 'rupee' ) which is a
> combination of Consonant ర ('ru') + vowel ఉ(pronounced as 'u' in 'push')
>
> *Ambiguity 6*: vowel ఇ ( pronounced as 'i' in 'ink') is close to
> consonant ఞ (pronounced as 'inya'). The 'inya' did not get recognized at
> all in my test data.
>
> *Ambiguity 7*: కౄ ( 'cru' as in 'cruel') and గౄ ('grue' as in
> 'gruesome') were converted to క్య ('kya') and 'గ్యూ' (gyoo).
>
> *Ambiguity 8*: ౠ ('rroo') became బూ ('boo')
>
> I guess some of them could be due to my poor tiff. But I think some of
> the ambiguities are genuine and need to be handled.
>
> Please help to address these ambiguity resolutions.
>
> tesseract-telugu.txt
> <https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tessdata_best/files/2377575/tesseract-telugu.txt>
>
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Thank you. I will try and update |
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I created a word doc with valid text and converted it to pdf and then tiff using imagemagick and ran tesseract with training data fast. I was able to scan mostly okay. News paper clipping had some errors..But that's fine. That said, the ambiguity stated in item 1,7 are still a problem. |
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Hi,
I created a test text data mostly (made up individual characters. see attachment) and converted it to tiff file using 'jTessBoxEditorFX' with font 'noto sans telugu 8pt'. I then ran it using the the testdata_best telugu language trained data.
I noticed a few errors in recognizing them. I believe this are due to ambiguous glyphs'.
Ambiguity 1: Telugu has three vowels that are similar to another consonant (There is another consonant that looks close enough)
vowel 1) ఒ (pronounced as 'o' in 'so')
vowel 2) ఓ (pronounced as 'oa' in 'goal' )
vowel 3) ఔ (pronounced as 'ou' in 'ounce' or 'pound')
similar looking consonant 1) బ (pronounced as 'bu' in 'bus')
consonant 2) భ (this is same as above but uttered with stress and aspiration. Imagine saying 'bus' as 'bhus')
Ambiguity 2: Consonant చ (pronounced as 'ch' as in 'church') is similar to another rarely used consonant ౘ (closest transliteration 'tsa')
Ambiguity 3: Consonant ర (pronounced as 'ru' as in 'run') is similar to another consonant ఠ ( hard 't' - close to the 't' in 'stone')
Ambiguity 4: Consonant జ (pronounced as 'ju' as in 'justice') is similar to another rarely used consonant ౙ (closest trasilteration 'za') and also similar to ఙ ('jna')
Ambiguity 5: consonant ఝ (pronounced as 'jha' - hard జ with aspiration ) was interpreted as 'రు' (pronounced as 'ru' in 'rupee' ) which is a combination of Consonant ర ('ru') + vowel ఉ(pronounced as 'u' in 'push')
Ambiguity 6: vowel ఇ ( pronounced as 'i' in 'ink') is close to consonant ఞ (pronounced as 'inya'). The 'inya' did not get recognized at all in my test data.
Ambiguity 7: కౄ ( 'cru' as in 'cruel') and గౄ ('grue' as in 'gruesome') were converted to క్య ('kya') and 'గ్యూ' (gyoo).
Ambiguity 8: ౠ ('rroo') became బూ ('boo')
I guess some of them could be due to my poor tiff. But I think some of the ambiguities are genuine and need to be handled.
Please help to address these ambiguity resolutions.
tesseract-telugu.txt
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