Question "Which modes of transportation approach this stop?" does not cover the full answer space. Missing e.g.: Anruf-Linien-Taxi, Ferry, cable car.

[dreirund]

Problem

I use OpenStop version 0.8.1 from f-droid.org.

For a stop position I am asked which modes of transport do approach that stop, but the list does not cover the whole possible answer space.

In that case, I miss something which is a on demand Taxi service ("AnrufSammelTaxi", "Anruf-Linien-Taxi" or so; it runs on timetable but only on request and the vehicle is a normal taxi, while the fare is the normal public transport fare). The stop inquestion is regularly only used by that form of transport.

Other things I miss, which might be needed in other cases, is ferry, cable car, and I think there are other types of regular public transport as well which are neither a bus nor a tram, train, light rail, subway or monorail.

So while maybe adding Ferry, cable car and "Anruf-Linien-Taxi", also add a "other" field so a note can be left?

Regards!

Which app version do you use?

0.8.1+20

What operating system do you use?

Android

What operating system version do you use?

11

Additional information

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[Robbendebiene]

Thanks for your ideas and suggestions.

In that case, I miss something which is a on demand Taxi service ("AnrufSammelTaxi", "Anruf-Linien-Taxi" or so; it runs on timetable but only on request and the vehicle is a normal taxi, while the fare is the normal public transport fare). The stop inquestion is regularly only used by that form of transport.

Do you know of any OSM tag combination that describes this scenario?
I'm not sure if https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:taxi fits this scenario.
This also sounds related to #275

Other things I miss, which might be needed in other cases, is ferry, cable car, and I think there are other types of regular public transport as well which are neither a bus nor a tram, train, light rail, subway or monorail.

Are you talking about aerialway "cable cars"? If so then I think this opens the door to adding other tags from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:aerialway Since we have to draw a line somewhere I think it makes sense to exclude it.

In case you mean the other type of cable car (also known as cable tram) then I don't know of any OSM tagging.

I'd be okay with adding:

• https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:trolleybus
• https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ferry

Ideally we would hide special types under a "more/other" button where users can then select further answers (see #279)

While setting the "note" tag could be an alternative answer, it cannot invalidate the original answer. Every question is asked on certain conditions, but we shouldn't stop asking questions just because the "note" tag is set.

[dreirund]

Ahoj,

On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:39:11 -0700, Robin Thomas ***@***.***> wrote: > In that case, I miss something which is a on demand Taxi service > ("AnrufSammelTaxi", "Anruf-Linien-Taxi" or so; it runs on timetable > but only on request and the vehicle is a normal taxi, while the > fare is the normal public transport fare). The stop inquestion is > regularly only used by that form of transport. Do you know of any OSM tag combination that describes this scenario? I'm not sure if https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:taxi fits this scenario. This also sounds related to #275

Maybe bus, and `on_demand=yes`?

> Other things I miss, which might be needed in other cases, is > ferry, cable car, and I think there are other types of regular > public transport as well which are neither a bus nor a tram, train, > light rail, subway or monorail. Are you talking about aerialway "cable cars"?

Yes. As there are some which are not mainly touristic but serve a basic purpose of connecting a settlement by public transport. Famous e.g. is [Chiatura in Georgia](https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/42.2947/43.2900). Also Switzerland and Austria has those.

[Robbendebiene]

Regarding:

Maybe bus, and on_demand=yes?

I also found: share_taxi=*

It doesn't have its own wiki page, but on others it is described as "a light bus acting as demand responsive transit" (src)

This sounds like a good fit to me.

As there are some which are not mainly touristic but serve a basic
purpose of connecting a settlement by public transport.

I can definitely see that. Still I'm unsure if we should include it in the main list.

[dreirund]

> Maybe bus, and `on_demand=yes`? I also found: `share_taxi=*` It doesn't have its own wiki page, but on others it is described as "a light bus acting as demand responsive transit" ([src](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access)) This sounds like a good fit to me.

For me, too!

> As there are some which are not mainly touristic but serve a basic > purpose of connecting a settlement by public transport. I can definitely see that. Still I'm unsure if we should include it in the main list.

For completeness. But I see that this is not often. (As ferries are also not that frequent.) So it can be hidden in an advanced/ "other" menu or so? (ferry, aerial, share_taxi maybe all in such a menu?) Regards!