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<p class='main'><span class="rel">Related:</span> <a href="diary.htm">diary</a><br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-30-2009:</span> Growth is self-leveling and auto-distributed when <a href="profit.htm">profit</a> is invested for the <a href="pay.htm">pay</a>er toward more physical <a href="sourc.htm">sourc</a>es of <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion that then vest to that same <a href="pay.htm">pay</a>er as his portion of <a href="co-own.htm">Co-Own</a>ed <a href="proper.htm">Proper</a>ty.<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-29-2009:</span> Why Words Fail<br/>
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Individuals and groups will downplay, deny and even despise negative feed<a href="back.htm">back</a>.<br/>
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Every negative message is interpreted as an attack that intends to disrupt or destroy.<br/>
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The receiver will not admit he is wrong, nor will he be taught, for both are considered 'losing'.<br/>
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The messenger becomes the enemy because it appears he wants the receiver to fail.<br/>
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This causes many potential messengers to avoid communication and the progress it might bring.<br/>
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Messengers that continue to try become more and more outcast until they are blocked completely.<br/>
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The messenger might instead communicate through physical action, but that is <a href="diff.htm">diff</a>icult alone.<br/>
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But organizing with others <small>(to communicate through physical action)</small> usually requires communication...<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-28-2009:</span> Posted to P2Presearch@<a class="ext" href="http://ListCultures.org">ListCultures.org</a><br/>
If you, along with a group of other concerned consumers, <a href="co-own.htm">co-own</a>ed the Means of that <a href="produc.htm">Produc</a>tion, then you would have ultimate <small>(above management level)</small> control of your portion of the output; and so, could direct the high-level goals without necessarily having the <a href="skill.htm">skill</a>s needed to accomplish those goals.<br/>
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But that <a href="mod.htm">Mod</a>e of <a href="produc.htm">Produc</a>tion is too efficient, since the <a href="profit.htm">Profit</a> we have been hypnotized into believing should be in the pockets of those <a href="work.htm">work</a>ers would fail to be collected from the consumer - since you, the consumer, must have already paid all the <a href="cost.htm">cost</a>s of <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion before completion and are <a href="left.htm">left</a> with <a href="own.htm">own</a>ership of the <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>t as a side-effect of your <a href="own.htm">own</a>ership in the Means.<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-27-2009:</span><br/>
Paola Di,<br/>
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Hello. I am very excited about "Public <a href="own.htm">Own</a>ership of Social Software?" because it intends to be "<a href="own.htm">own</a>ed and managed by <a href="user.htm">user</a>s".<br/>
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On the other hand, I think the <a href="title.htm">title</a> is confusing because of the potential for "<a href="own.htm">Own</a>ership" to be interpreted as Copyright which might <a href="mak.htm">mak</a>e this appear to be a bid to create a <a href="new.htm">new</a> license.<br/>
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I think a better name would <a href="use.htm">use</a> the word 'host' and maybe 'physical' or 'material' or '<a href="spac.htm">spac</a>e' or '<a href="stor.htm">stor</a>age' to help convey our intent to help <a href="user.htm">user</a>s collectively buy, <a href="install.htm">install</a>, operate and maintain <small>(or <a href="pay.htm">pay</a> others to do so)</small> the physical infrastructure required to host "social software" <small>(or <a href="real.htm">real</a>ly any software and/or any media or data or any kind in my opinion)</small>.<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-21-2009:</span> Noticed <a class="ext" href="http://Wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_acquisition_is_initialization">Wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_acquisition_is_initialization</a> is similar to my self-taught technique of "Re<a href="sourc.htm">sourc</a>e Management via <a href="obj.htm">Obj</a>ect Lifetimes".<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-17-2009:</span> Posted to <a class="ext" href="http://IEET.org/index.php/IEET/more/3207">IEET.org/index.php/IEET/more/3207</a><br/>
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Marcelo,<br/>
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I've been wishing the city I <a href="liv.htm">liv</a>e in would choose nut trees, fruit trees, berry bushes, grape vines for the otherwise ornamental plants they <a href="install.htm">install</a>. We <small>(the people of that city)</small> could also choose spices and herbs for the smaller ornamentals; and many other plants such as squash, peppers, even tomato and potato look as pretty as many of the barren greenery we suicidally choose instead.<br/>
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By doing so, as oil increases in <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e, and as un<a href="employ.htm">employ</a>ment increases in severity, and as the Federal Reserve <a href="note.htm">Note</a> continues to lose value, we will then have plenty of <a href="work.htm">work</a> to do with enormous direct reward.<br/>
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But this is all assuming we would be growing for our *<a href="own.htm">own</a>* consumption instead of attempting to sell any of the <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>t.<br/>
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Since we don't have any <a href="real.htm">real</a> control at the city level I wonder if you see a neighborhood/community doing this - moving toward permaculture - do you see that as a negative thing?<br/>
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Must we continue to water and <a href="work.htm">work</a> on plants that have no value whatsoever while hoping we can afford to purchase Pine Nuts from China? Wouldn't you rather <a href="know.htm">know</a> what was <a href="spray.htm">spray</a>ed on them and wouldn't you rather have the security that those trees will <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>e each year, dropping the food nearly at our doorstep without the need for petroleum or the increasing political <a href="diff.htm">diff</a>iculty of crossing borders?<br/>
Do we <a href="real.htm">real</a>ly want to be in the stranglehold of another nation?<br/>
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And even if the food is <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>ed in the country you <a href="liv.htm">liv</a>e in, if it is <a href="own.htm">own</a>ed by a for-<a href="profit.htm">profit</a> corporation, then they will <a href="mak.htm">mak</a>e it too expensive to even consider.<br/>
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We could have hundreds of tons of nearly <a href="free.htm">free</a> food and the raw materials for medicines, <a href="soap.htm">soap</a>s, clothes and <a href="buil.htm">buil</a>ding materials if we would get-over our myopic mindset that governments should never be <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tive.<br/>
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Local <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion is <a href="diff.htm">diff</a>icult for single individual, but is a powerful solution when we can "get together" to share the complexity.<br/>
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We <small>(the people)</small> should be <a href="own.htm">own</a>ing sawmills, plastic-recycling equipment, repair shops, restaurants <small>(yes, restaurants)</small>, <a href="stor.htm">stor</a>age facilities, agriculture equipment and factories of all sorts.<br/>
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But we are too scared or too stupid ... but another problem that leads to such pitifully weak cities is the way <a href="proper.htm">proper</a>ty taxes punish improvements while allowing <a href="land.htm">land</a>-hoarders to withhold as much as they want - leading to sprawl and destitution.<br/>
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There is more to this, but I must "go to <a href="work.htm">work</a>" to <a href="pay.htm">pay</a> a mortgage <small>(literally "death grip")</small> to <a href="bank.htm">bank</a>ers that never did any <a href="work.htm">work</a> in their <a href="liv.htm">liv</a>es and yet steal almost all of our value because we fail to organize locally for our good. We, the potential consumers, must organize for <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>t instead of <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>.<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-16-2009:</span> <a class="ext" href="http://UrbanGardenShare.org">UrbanGardenShare.org</a> <span class="quot2">>>There is limited green <a href="spac.htm">spac</a>e for food and flowers in this place we call the urban jungle. Matching homeowners <small>(with garden <a href="spac.htm">spac</a>e)</small> to gardeners <small>(with experience)</small> is the perfect solution for cultivating both food <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion and community. Condo and a<a href="part.htm">part</a>ment dwellers are faced with containers or p-patches as their only prospects for vibrant gardens. Homeowners can be overwhelmed by yet-another-garden-project. Together, we <a href="mak.htm">mak</a>e a great team.</span><br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-16-2009:</span> Posted to P2Presearch@<a class="ext" href="http://ListCultures.org">ListCultures.org</a><br/>
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Ryan Lanham wrote:<br/>
<span class="quot">> agricultural <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion not a very safe business</span><br/>
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This sentence contains the ever prevalent broken-mindset assumption that <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion must be for <a href="profit.htm">profit</a> instead of for <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>t.<br/>
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The <a href="fund.htm">fund</a>amental reason we are failing as a species is because we <a href="work.htm">work</a> *against* each other when we attempt to keep <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e above <a href="cost.htm">cost</a> and the Means of <a href="produc.htm">Produc</a>tion out of the hands of those who actually need the <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>ts thereof.<br/>
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<a href="produc.htm">Produc</a>tion should not be about "exchange value", it should be about "<a href="use.htm">use</a> value".<br/>
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But only consumers care about "<a href="use.htm">use</a> value", and they have not yet become aware enough to <a href="real.htm">real</a>ize they must organize and <a href="own.htm">OWN</a> the Means of <a href="produc.htm">Produc</a>tion for themselves, even when they do not happen to have the <a href="skill.htm">skill</a>s needed to operate them, so they can receive the <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>t "at <a href="cost.htm">cost</a>" while also being in full control of how that <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion is achieved.<br/>
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<a href="profit.htm">Profit</a> is not a measure of success, it is a measure of failure!<br/>
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<a href="profit.htm">Profit</a> increases as a consumer becomes more dependent upon the <a href="curr.htm">curr</a>ent <a href="own.htm">own</a>ers of the Means of <a href="produc.htm">Produc</a>tion.<br/>
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We must stop playing this hideous and immoral <a href="game.htm">game</a> of keeping <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e above <a href="cost.htm">cost</a>, for it causes those who are rewarded to <a href="mak.htm">mak</a>e choices that further increase scarcity - including biodiversity destruction through the elimination of entire species.<br/>
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In the future a few of us will organize <small>(obviously the <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>eer-controlled and therefore scarcity-seeking governments will never help us)</small> in a <a href="gnu.htm">GNU</a> way that treats <a href="profit.htm">profit</a> as an investment from each <a href="pay.htm">pay</a>er - causing <a href="own.htm">own</a>ership and therefore control to be continuously distributed <small>(actually just not centralized)</small> into the hands of those who <a href="real.htm">real</a>ly need it, and the only ones that deserve it, and the only ones for which <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion should ever occur.<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-16-2009:</span> Posted to P2Presearch@<a class="ext" href="http://ListCultures.org">ListCultures.org</a><br/>
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Kevin Carson wrote:<br/>
<span class="quot">> from the consumer's perspective it will likely be</span><br/>
<span class="quot">> cheaper in labor terms to "<a href="mak.htm">mak</a>e" rather than "buy."</span><br/>
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Yes, as you say, if the *consumer* is the <a href="own.htm">own</a>er, this is true <small>(or can be true for experienced gardeners)</small> even for a single-<a href="own.htm">own</a>er plot, and almost always will be true for a multi-<a href="own.htm">own</a>er <small>(<a href="own.htm">own</a>ed by multiple consumers)</small> plot since their <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e for the <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>t will then be exactly <a href="cost.htm">cost</a> without the needless drain of <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>.<br/>
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When *consumers* are the <a href="own.htm">own</a>ers, <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion is for "<a href="use.htm">use</a> value" <small>(<a href="produc.htm">produc</a>t)</small> instead of "exchange value" <small>(<a href="profit.htm">profit</a>)</small>.<br/>
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But the <a href="art.htm">art</a>icle seems to focus on "exchange value" <small>(<a href="profit.htm">profit</a>)</small>, with no regard for "<a href="use.htm">use</a> value" <small>(<a href="produc.htm">produc</a>t)</small> at all. Typical wrong-headed, business-oriented, scarcity-seeking mentality.<br/>
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<span class="quot">> Putting him <a href="back.htm">back</a> on his <a href="own.htm">own</a> <a href="land.htm">land</a>, <a href="land.htm">land</a> that was</span><br/>
<span class="quot">> stolen from him or his pa<a href="rent.htm">rent</a>s so it could be <a href="use.htm">use</a>d to grow cash crops</span><br/>
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The concept of "cash crops" is as vile and destructive as any and all "for <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>" business since the only purpose of that <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion is to keep <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e above <a href="cost.htm">cost</a> <small>(to collect <a href="profit.htm">profit</a> from the consumer)</small>. This is, unfortunately, also the case for all "<a href="work.htm">work</a>er <a href="own.htm">own</a>ed" business.<br/>
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<span class="quot">> for those who can afford them, where he can <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>e directly for his</span><br/>
<span class="quot">> <a href="own.htm">own</a> consumption, is the <a href="ide.htm">ide</a>al solution.</span><br/>
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Even if he cannot do the <a href="work.htm">work</a> himself <small>(let's say an accident has <a href="left.htm">left</a> him paralyzed)</small>, he will benefit tremendously by <a href="own.htm">own</a>ing the plot of <a href="land.htm">land</a> and the tools needed for that <a href="work.htm">work</a>, since he will then only <a href="pay.htm">pay</a> for the <a href="cost.htm">cost</a>s of <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion <small>(wages are also a <a href="cost.htm">cost</a>)</small> and never for <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>.<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-16-2009:</span> Posted to P2Presearch@<a class="ext" href="http://ListCultures.org">ListCultures.org</a><br/>
<span class="quot">> Stefan Merten wrote:</span><br/>
<span class="quot2">>> <small>[scarcity]</small> is not unneccessary for an exchange based system</span><br/>
<span class="quot2">>> because otherwise the exchange based system you mention</span><br/>
<span class="quot2">>> would not need to <a href="protect.htm">protect</a> it.</span><br/>
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Stefan,<br/>
By "exchange based system" are you talking about *any* form of <a href="trad.htm">trad</a>e, or are you talking about the "for-<a href="profit.htm">profit</a>" subset that attempts to maximize "exchange value"?<br/>
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Kevin Carson wrote:<br/>
<span class="quot">> The exchange-based system isn't created to "<a href="protect.htm">protect</a>" or "lock in"</span><br/>
<span class="quot">> scarcity; it is also a way of dealing with scarcity when it exists by</span><br/>
<span class="quot">> nature.</span><br/>
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Kevin,<br/>
If by "exchange-based system" you are referring to "for <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>" <a href="trad.htm">trad</a>e, then you are incorrect in claiming it does not require scarcity, since <a href="profit.htm">profit</a> <small>(<a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e above <a href="cost.htm">cost</a>)</small> is the very measure of scarcity with regards to the consumer who <a href="pay.htm">pay</a>s it. Without scarcity, <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e hits <a href="cost.htm">cost</a> and <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>s hit zero, while wages are unaffected <small>(wages are a <a href="cost.htm">cost</a>)</small>.<br/>
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Furthermore, a "for <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>" business would never attempt to 'solve' scarcity, for to do so will reduce and finally destroy <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>s.<br/>
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"For <a href="profit.htm">profit</a>" businesses are on a desperately problematic and <a href="real.htm">real</a>ly even suicidally dangerous road requiring <a href="art.htm">art</a>ificial scarcity and purposeful destruction to keep their consumers dependent.<br/>
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A <a class="ext" href="http://Wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_feedback">http://Wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_feedback</a> loop that will 'solve' scarcity is treating <a href="profit.htm">profit</a> as a <a href="pay.htm">pay</a>er's investment - so that <a href="own.htm">own</a>ership in the Means of <a href="produc.htm">Produc</a>tion is continuously balanced across all those willing to spend more than <a href="cost.htm">cost</a> for the <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>ts they need.<br/>
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When I say 'spend' I don't mean any sort of '<a href="mone.htm">mone</a>y' is necessarily required. I'm talking about <a href="protect.htm">protect</a>ing the <a href="work.htm">work</a>er, but from the *consuming* side, for every <a href="work.htm">work</a>er is also a consumer.<br/>
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Treating <a href="profit.htm">profit</a> as a consumer's investment is the only <a class="ext" href="http://Wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_stabiliser">http://Wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_stabiliser</a> needed to solve scarcity.<br/>
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Sincerely,<br/>
Patrick<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-15-2009:</span> Posted to OKFN-Discuss@<a class="ext" href="http://Lists.OKFN.org">Lists.OKFN.org</a><br/>
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Rufus Pollock wrote:<br/>
<span class="quot">> * What do you think the Open <a href="know.htm">Know</a>ledge Foundation is?</span><br/>
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An attempt to increase "<a href="user.htm">User</a> <a href="free.htm">Free</a>dom" for data similar <small>(in my opinion <a href="ide.htm">ide</a>ntical)</small> to the FSF's goal to increase "<a href="user.htm">User</a> <a href="free.htm">Free</a>dom" for code.<br/>
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<span class="quot">> * What do you think it should be doing?</span><br/>
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There is no reason to treat data separately from code. Whether it be Genetic-info <small>(DNA)</small>, Music, Video, software, <a href="cad.htm">CAD</a>-<a href="file.htm">file</a>s, indigenous <a href="know.htm">know</a>ledge, techniques and information about how to accomplish any thing, etc. it is all the 'design' <a href="part.htm">part</a> of nature.<br/>
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The <a href="gnu.htm">GNU</a> <a href="gpl.htm">GPL</a> tries to "lock-open" copyrightable design. This <a href="work.htm">work</a>s for code or data - it is the same. The '<a href="sourc.htm">sourc</a>e' of a movie is the original, uncompressed data that is needed to <a href="mak.htm">mak</a>e *quality* changes to that design.<br/>
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But the <a href="gnu.htm">GNU</a> <a href="gpl.htm">GPL</a> does not, and cannot go far enough because it is only addressing the 'design' half of <a href="real.htm">real</a>ity.<br/>
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The <a href="gnu.htm">GNU</a> <a href="agpl.htm">AGPL</a> tries to poke the material sphere by legislating <a href="sourc.htm">sourc</a>e be delivered even when a design is being 'expressed' on re<a href="sourc.htm">sourc</a>es the <a href="user.htm">user</a> does not <a href="own.htm">own</a> and then being made available in a '<a href="remot.htm">remot</a>e' fashion to that <a href="user.htm">user</a>.<br/>
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<span class="quot">> * What impact should it be having?</span><br/>
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The most potent direction we could travel <small>(and this is the same message I have for the FSF)</small> is to <a href="real.htm">real</a>ize "<a href="user.htm">User</a> <a href="free.htm">Free</a>dom" can and must be <a href="insur.htm">insur</a>ed for the 'material' or 'physical' components that are required to "host" any and all designs.<br/>
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Licensing that "locks-open" a design is good and needed, but it can only go so far because all design requires <a href="spac.htm">spac</a>e, mass and energy for <a href="stor.htm">stor</a>age and 'expression'.<br/>
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The next step is to devise a "Terms of Operation" or a legally binding Contract that groups of <a href="user.htm">user</a>s can choose to apply to some "Physical <a href="sourc.htm">Sourc</a>es" they will then <a href="use.htm">use</a> to "host" things such as e<a href="mail.htm">mail</a>, video, audio, home-pages, wikis, etc. ... and even the far more important goals of housing, plants and animals for food and medicine <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion, factories, mines, ... ANY and ALL material Means of <a href="produc.htm">Produc</a>tion.<br/>
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We can and must learn how to share Physical <a href="sourc.htm">Sourc</a>es and begin ignoring the for-<a href="profit.htm">profit</a> corporations that want to withhold our <a href="free.htm">free</a>dom through <a href="art.htm">art</a>ificial scarcity and purposeful destruction of our otherwise natural inheritance.<br/>
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Sincerely,<br/>
Patrick Anderson<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-15-2009:</span> Posted to <a class="ext" href="http://Facebook.com/pages/Telekommunisten/102485508561">Facebook.com/pages/Telekommunisten/102485508561</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://Telekommunisten.net">Telekommunisten.net</a> says <span class="quot">"'Telekommunisten is controlled by it's <a href="work.htm">work</a>ers'"</span>. This is certainly better than being controlled by an arbitrary group of absentee-<a href="land.htm">land</a>lord inve<a href="stor.htm">stor</a>s. ... But there is an even more deserving group we neglect to consider.<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-13-2009:</span> Some <a href="new.htm">new</a>s links:<br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://H-Online.com">H-Online.com</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://Wine-Reviews.net">Wine-Reviews.net</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://LXer.com">LXer.com</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://FSDaily.com">FSDaily.com</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://LinuxToday.com">LinuxToday.com</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://TuxMachines.org">TuxMachines.org</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://UbuntuHQ.com">UbuntuHQ.com</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://Wine-Review.blogspot.com">Wine-Review.blogspot.com</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://HowFlow.com">HowFlow.com</a><br/>
<a class="ext" href="http://Raiden.net">Raiden.net</a><br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-07-2009:</span> An <a href="econ.htm">econ</a>omic system requires a <a class="ext" href="http://Wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_feedback">Wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_feedback</a> loop to avoid the problem of overaccumulation. Treating <a href="profit.htm">profit</a> as <a href="pay.htm">pay</a>er investment is the <a class="ext" href="http://Wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_stabiliser">Wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_stabiliser</a> we missed.<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-06-2009:</span> Message to <a class="ext" href="http://FaceBook.com/profile.php?id=528259074">FaceBook.com/profile.php?id=528259074</a><br/>
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Well, I'm sorry to say I haven't yet put this into action...<br/>
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My plan is to <a href="start.htm">start</a> something that sounds <small>(in my mind)</small> similar to what you <a href="prop.htm">prop</a>ose - I think of it as a "community center", but we could <a href="mak.htm">mak</a>e it appear as an internet cafe or some sort of <a href="work.htm">work</a>shop or maybe a <a href="rent.htm">rent</a>al agency. Most of the <a href="spac.htm">spac</a>e and most of the tools would be available for <a href="rent.htm">rent</a> or purchase. Customers could <a href="rent.htm">rent</a> <a href="stor.htm">stor</a>age areas as small as a <a href="mail.htm">mail</a>box or rooms to sleep or to relax in other ways <small>(watch movies, play <a href="game.htm">game</a>s, etc.)</small>; <a href="work.htm">work</a> areas for wood<a href="work.htm">work</a>ing, steel<a href="work.htm">work</a>ing, car repair, sewing <a href="mac.htm">mac</a>hines, larger clothes-washing <a href="mac.htm">mac</a>hines, etc. and of course <small>(and <a href="real.htm">real</a>ly most importantly)</small> we want to be <a href="install.htm">install</a>ing and maintaining permaculture <a href="land.htm">land</a>scaping to regain control of of our food, medicine, <a href="soap.htm">soap</a>, clothing and <a href="buil.htm">buil</a>ding materials.<br/>
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I don't want to get "too carried away" at first so as to avoid capsizing the operation, but just wanted let you <a href="know.htm">know</a> my longer-term vision includes any and all forms of <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>tion.<br/>
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I think we could <a href="start.htm">start</a> as simply as <a href="rent.htm">rent</a>ing a commercial <a href="spac.htm">spac</a>e in some city and incorporating under a "Terms of Operation" that enforce the treatment of <a href="profit.htm">profit</a> as I have described.<br/>
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It seems likely we might also be able to achieve "non-<a href="profit.htm">profit</a>" <a href="stat.htm">stat</a>us, especially if we become a religion - though that may be too confusing or become a burden in other unforseen ways...<br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-02-2009:</span> <a class="ext" href="http://Wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand">Wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand</a> <span class="quot2">>>Supply and demand is an <a href="econ.htm">econ</a>omic <a href="mod.htm">mod</a>el based on <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e, utility and quantity in a market. It concludes that in a competitive market, <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e will function to equalize the quantity demanded by consumers, and the quantity supplied by <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>ers, resulting in an <a href="econ.htm">econ</a>omic equilibrium of <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e and quantity. An increase in the quantity <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>ed or supplied will typically result in a reduction in <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e and vice-versa. Similarly, an increase in the number of <a href="work.htm">work</a>ers tends to result in lower wages and vice-versa. The <a href="mod.htm">mod</a>el incorporates other factors changing equilibrium as a shift of demand and/or supply.</span><br/>
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<hr/><span class="date">Jul-02-2009:</span> Essential <a href="econ.htm">econ</a> concepts...<br/>
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Capital, input, <a href="sourc.htm">sourc</a>e, MoP<br/>
<a href="obj.htm">obj</a>ect, output, <a href="produc.htm">produc</a>t<br/>
labor, service, <a href="work.htm">work</a><br/>
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demand, <a href="profit.htm">profit</a><br/>
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need, problem, want<br/>
<a href="employ.htm">employ</a>ment<br/>
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manage, steer<br/>
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<a href="cost.htm">cost</a>, <a href="rent.htm">rent</a><br/>
<a href="econ.htm">econ</a>omic <a href="rent.htm">rent</a>, <a href="profit.htm">profit</a><br/>
consumer <a href="pric.htm">pric</a>e,<br/>
<a href="work.htm">work</a>er wage<br/>
deed, <a href="own.htm">own</a>, <a href="proper.htm">proper</a>ty, <a href="title.htm">title</a><br/>
allocate, border, auction, bid, <a href="co-own.htm">co-own</a>, schedule<br/>
invest,<br/>
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competition, efficiency<br/>
<a href="protect.htm">protect</a>, shield, shore-up<br/>
automation, robot<br/>
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